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Manitowoc, WI 54220  
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City of Manitowoc  
Meeting Minutes - Final  
Personnel Committee  
Monday, August 5, 2024  
5:30 PM  
Council Chambers-Meeting is also available via Remote  
Conferencing-Zoom  
1. Call to Order  
The meeting was called to order at 5:30 p.m.  
2. Roll Call  
Jessie Lillibridge, Debbie Charney, Pam Wimmer, Shawn Esslinger, and  
Eric Bauer  
5 - Sitkiewitz, Brey, Schlei, Norell and Vanderkin  
Present:  
3. Public Comment  
None  
4. Consent Agenda  
These items will be approved by one motion unless any Committee Member wishes to remove an  
item for discussion.  
REMOVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS: None  
24-1625  
Approval of June 3, 2024 Personnel Committee Minutes  
Attachments: 06-03-2024 Minutes.pdf  
24-1626  
Review of Legal Fees Billed out Through July, 2024-Human Resources  
Attachments: _OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL FOR HR Costs.pdf  
24-1627  
Monthly Report out on Health Plan  
Attachments: Med MER 0624 updated 080224 no hcc.pdf  
24-1628  
Report out of Human Resource's Office Initiatives August, 2024  
Attachments: HR Update August 2024.pdf  
24-1629  
Report out of City Attorney's Office Initiatives August, 2024  
Attachments: ATTORNEY'S OFFICE UPDATE AUGUST 2024.pdf  
Approval of the Consent Agenda  
Moved by Vanderkin, seconded by Schlei, to accept the Consent Agenda Items as  
presented. The motion carried by the following vote:  
5 - Sitkiewitz, Brey, Schlei, Norell and Vanderkin  
Aye:  
5. Discussion and Action Items  
24-1709  
USI Update on Benefit Plan Performance and 2025 Plan Design  
Recommendations  
Attachments: 8-5-24 PC meeting presentation on 2025 benefits - updated.pdf  
Shawn Esslinger, Benefits Consultant from USI, presented to the  
committee an overview of 2024 plan design and some recommendations  
for 2025. There was no action taken on this item since it will be further  
discussed.  
24-1630  
Request to Approve Revised Seasonal Pay Rates  
Attachments: 2025 Seasonal Payrates-Appendix B-DRAFT-06-2024.pdf  
2025 Seasonal Payrates-Appendix B-For Council-8-2024.pdf  
Human Resources Director Jessie Lillibridge explained that this item is  
brought to committee each year in preparation for budget planning to make  
any changes to seasonal pay rates.  
Moved by Vanderkin, seconded by Brey, that this request to revise the seasonal  
pay rates for 2025 be approved and referred to council. The motion carried by the  
following vote:  
5 - Sitkiewitz, Brey, Schlei, Norell and Vanderkin  
Aye:  
24-1649  
Ordinance to Amend 3.480 City Attorney  
Attachments: MEMO TO PERSONNEL RE 3.480 AMENDMENT PROPOSAL.pdf  
ORDINANCE TO AMEND 3.480 CITY ATTORNEY-FINAL.pdf  
City Attorney Eric Nycz is requesting that this Ordinance be amended to  
allow discussion with other attorneys regarding City business.  
Moved by Brey, seconded by Vanderkin, that this request to amend this  
Ordinance to allow discussion with other attorneys by the City Attorney be  
accepted and referred to Council. The motion carried by the following vote:  
5 - Sitkiewitz, Brey, Schlei, Norell and Vanderkin  
Aye:  
6. Convene in Closed Session  
Moved by Vanderkin, seconded by Schlei, to convene in closed session at 6:04  
p.m. The motion carried by the following vote:  
5 - Sitkiewitz, Brey, Schlei, Norell and Vanderkin  
Aye:  
Notice is hereby given that the above governmental body may adjourn into a closed session during  
the meeting as authorized by Section 19.85(1)(e) of the Wisconsin Statutes, which authorizes the  
governmental body to convene in closed session for the purpose of deliberating or negotiating the  
purchasing of public properties, the investing of public funds, or conducting other specified public  
business, whenever competitive or bargaining reasons require a closed session.  
The specific subject matter that may be considered in closed session is:  
24-1358  
Manitowoc Firefighters Local 368 Acting Captain Pay Grievance  
Update  
Attachments: Union request single arbitration board-3-22-24.pdf  
24-1710  
Request to Approve Side Letter Agreement-International Association of  
Fire Fighters-Local 368-Acting Captain Pay and Lieutenant Pay  
Attachments: side letter fire acting capt pay.pdf  
24-1711  
Manitowoc Firefighters Local 368-Appeal Chief's Denial of Grievance  
for Mandatory Reporting to Work  
Attachments: Memo to council from Chief re grievance 08.2024.pdf  
ARTICLE 4-HOURS OF WORK.pdf  
Personnel Commitee Appeal Mandation Loritz.pdf  
Personnel Commitee Appeal Mandation Ewald.pdf  
24-1712  
Manitowoc Professional Firefighters International Association of  
Firefighters Local 368 Contract Negotiations-2025-2027  
Attachments: External_ L368_City Bargaining.pdf  
(Closed Session portion of the Minutes has been redacted)  
7. Reconvene in Open Session  
Moved by Vanderkin, seconded by Schlei, to reconvene in open session at 6:23  
p.m. The motion carried by the following vote:  
5 - Sitkiewitz, Brey, Schlei, Norell and Vanderkin  
Aye:  
24-1358  
Manitowoc Firefighters Local 368 Acting Captain Pay Grievance Update  
Attachments: Union request single arbitration board-3-22-24.pdf  
Moved by Vanderkin, seconded by Schlei, that the Manitowoc Firefighters Local  
368 Acting Captain Pay Grievance be placed on file and referred to Council. The  
motion carried by the following vote:  
5 - Sitkiewitz, Brey, Schlei, Norell and Vanderkin  
Aye:  
24-1710  
Request to Approve Side Letter Agreement-International Association of  
Fire Fighters-Local 368-Acting Captain Pay and Lieutenant Pay  
Attachments: side letter fire acting capt pay.pdf  
Moved by Brey, seconded by Vanderkin, to enter into the side letter with  
International Association of Fire Fighters-Local 368-Acting Captain pay and  
Lieutenant pay and refer to Council. The motion carried by the following vote:  
5 - Sitkiewitz, Brey, Schlei, Norell and Vanderkin  
Aye:  
24-1711  
Manitowoc Firefighters Local 368-Appeal Chief's Denial of Grievance for  
Mandatory Reporting to Work  
Attachments: Memo to council from Chief re grievance 08.2024.pdf  
ARTICLE 4-HOURS OF WORK.pdf  
Personnel Commitee Appeal Mandation Loritz.pdf  
Personnel Commitee Appeal Mandation Ewald.pdf  
Moved by Vanderkin, seconded by Schlei, recommending denying the  
Manitowoc Firefighters Local 368-Grievance for Mandatory Reporting to Work  
and refer to Council. The motion carried by the following vote:  
5 - Sitkiewitz, Brey, Schlei, Norell and Vanderkin  
Aye:  
24-1712  
Manitowoc Professional Firefighters International Association of  
Firefighters Local 368 Contract Negotiations-2025-2027  
Attachments: External_ L368_City Bargaining.pdf  
No action was taken on this item  
24-1713  
Discuss September, 2024 Meeting Date  
The September 2, 2024 Personnel Committee meeting will be moved to  
September 5, 2024 or possibly cancel the meeting.  
8. Adjournment  
Moved by Vanderkin, seconded by Schlei, that this meeting be adjourned at 6:27  
p.m. The motion carried by the following vote:  
5 - Sitkiewitz, Brey, Schlei, Norell and Vanderkin  
Aye:  
Submitted by Pam Wimmer, Human Resources Assistant